Yahoo Finance reports that while the average Social Security payout is $25,000/yr, "more than 4 in 10 workers aged 55 and older expect Social Security to be their primary source of retirement income." Is that a surprising number? Four out of ten? I don't know what I think about that number.
There were at least two comments that said with no mortgage, $25,000 should be plenty for a single person to live on. Doable? Maybe, depending on where you live but plenty....
I tried to list out our expenses for living in Tucson, projecting forward to when the house is paid off.
Tucson is not cheap but it is not very expensive either. Because we are there only part time I had to grab some averages for things like the water bill. For just one person, the number drops to $3329.50 (cutting Medicare, car insurance and the cellphone bill in half). What do you think about $1200 for groceries? I didn't cut that one in half, is $600 for one person high or low. I didn't take out the solar lease because without it, the electric bill would be well north of $200.
I realize there are things that might be missing from how other people spend money. We spend nothing on medical care (knock on wood) other than an annual physical. Who knows how long our luck will hold out but at this point there's no way to reliably predict what our spending will require on this front. Gemini thinks that the average annual healthcare expense for a 65 year old is $2691/yr excluding insurance so maybe add another $224/mo in today's dollars.
There's no money leftover for fun other than streaming, but streaming is probably the first (only?) place to cut expenses from that list. Is never watching anything realistic? Prime is almost free plus one more like maybe Netflix or Hulu without live TV might shave $75-80 off the monthly expenses. Please comment if you can figure how to get to $25,000/yr in today's dollars being plenty but that doesn't seem plausible.
There's also no money left over for bigger, unexpected expenses like something with the car or house.
The point is the process not whatever numbers I came up with and again, I am sure I am leaving things out.
We've had this conversation before. What are your fixed expenses likely to be? What about more lifestyle expenses like traveling (even if infrequent) or hobbies? Looking at bank account statements and or credit card statements can help dial this in.
Our real number is probably closer to $4500 in today's dollars but doesn't include traveling, other types of fun or big emergencies.
As I say frequently, the Social Security Administration wants everyone to know their numbers. Going with our Plan A for SS (I take it at 70 and my wife at 64), our SS would be $6684/mo, reduced by 23% in case Congress actually lets benefit get cut leaves us at $5146/mo in today's dollars. That looks good unless some sort of medical thing comes along that is continuously expensive out of pocket or there is some sort of scenario that forces our hand to take SS earlier than we plan.
SS will cover some portion of your fixed expenses, maybe even some of your discretionary spending or maybe covering your occasional emergencies or other big spends. What portion will it cover of those three categories? How much does your portfolio need to reliably come up with to cover everything?
I think the math is simple. Living a $7000 lifestyle and expecting $4500 from SS (whether you discount it or not) obviously means finding $2500. Got $2 million saved, you're in good shape. Got $500,000, you'd be at a 6% spend rate which would probably survive but is not ideal.
Depending on how comfortable someone is with their own numbers, SS vs expenses and what they have in the bank, determines whether something has to give like working longer, spending less, taking up some sort of post-retirement side hustle or something else.
As mundane as that was, something a little more interesting was post by Jordan Grumet. He is in the decumulation phase and not a fan of buckets like segregating a year or two's worth of expenses in cash to manage sequence of return risk. He is implementing what he calls The Never Rebalance Glide Path starting with a 70/30 allocation. When stocks are up for the quarter which is most of the time, he will take his income need from equities and when equities are down he will pull from the fixed income side of the portfolio.
A couple of comments pointed out that his premise is built upon assumptions of how bonds did for close to 40 years going into 2022 and that 2022 invalidates his idea because both stocks and bonds went down. It's sort of a Karl Popper argument that it only takes one negative occurrence to disprove something.
Grumet's goal is to make the decumulation process easier. You can decide for yourself whether you like the idea or whether you think it makes anything simpler but Grumet never talked about what bonds he owns. The critical comments make a good point but if you swap out bonds and think in terms of equity offsets whether that's absolute return, gold, managed futures or anything else, then that seems like a better way to think of his idea in case you are not a fan of bonds with duration.
One last item relating to a different type of bucket, exhausting a bucket or account. One form of this that several clients have done over the years that I thought I would share here is selling a house and investing some of the proceeds while spending down the rest of proceeds. One client just did this, they sold a vacation home and pretty much split the proceeds 50/50 between investing in markets and spending down the other half of the proceeds allowing their investment accounts to grow without withdrawals for a while, probably three years in this example.
I can see this sort of thing appealing to me. We own a rental cabin that we'll sell at some point. Using the proceeds as a bridge, as we've referred to it before, to the some financial milestone like starting RMDs ties in with my preferences.
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